tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6269373338960125445.post9140812688994160608..comments2023-10-24T08:28:13.516-05:00Comments on Dropping Swords: A Christian Theology of the BodyJohn Buergerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10608956291117583865noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6269373338960125445.post-31661708669127795032008-04-02T16:36:00.000-05:002008-04-02T16:36:00.000-05:00Gotcha.Gotcha.John Buergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10608956291117583865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6269373338960125445.post-41182024369475535782008-04-02T15:09:00.000-05:002008-04-02T15:09:00.000-05:00no, sorry - both contributed to the idea of self i...no, sorry - both contributed to the idea of self interpretation.matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17628537694937719013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6269373338960125445.post-46618986426872633812008-04-02T09:43:00.000-05:002008-04-02T09:43:00.000-05:00Matt, I'm glad you are enjoying it. I need to ...Matt,<BR/><BR/> I'm glad you are enjoying it. I need to look through it again. I co-wrote a review of the book with Dr. Kreider for BibSac, but I don't know when it comes out. I know that Dr. K likes Wright, too.<BR/><BR/> Did you mean to say that Barth and existentialist theologians are part of the reason why there is so much bad theology in modern evangelicalism?John Buergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10608956291117583865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6269373338960125445.post-67438471133003558282008-04-02T09:30:00.000-05:002008-04-02T09:30:00.000-05:00John,you should also give credit to the existentia...John,<BR/><BR/>you should also give credit to the existentialists and students of Barth for much of that...<BR/><BR/>yeah, i'm in the middle of simply christian right now and loving it. i give that book out all the time - it will indeed be a classic. it so well frames - with clarity and patience - the christian faith.matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17628537694937719013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6269373338960125445.post-31428070559649938272008-04-01T11:21:00.000-05:002008-04-01T11:21:00.000-05:00Eric, I'm sorry, man, that I have taken so long...Eric,<BR/><BR/> I'm sorry, man, that I have taken so long to respond to your comment. Please forgive me.<BR/><BR/> As far as his other stands, Wright is certainly orthodox, I believe. By that, I mean that he holds to the essentials of Christian belief, like a good Anglican should. This includes Christ's person (His full deity and humanity), the Trinity, substitutionary atonement of the cross, the resurrection (obviously), the divine inspiration of Scripture, and salvation by grace alone through faith alone. As far as I know, he would confess all of those things.<BR/><BR/>Beyond that, I'm not as sure. I'm sure that if we try hard enough, we can disagree with him on something. But when I try hard, I often disagree with myself. <BR/><BR/>I've even been known to disagree with God, from time to time. Fortunately, He's patient with me. :)John Buergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10608956291117583865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6269373338960125445.post-76562138846948145562008-04-01T11:15:00.000-05:002008-04-01T11:15:00.000-05:00Matt,Yeah, I really like Wright. I enjoyed his "Si...Matt,<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I really like Wright. I enjoyed his "Simply Christian." It is to the post-modern world what "Mere Christianity" was to the modern. I think you would really like it, too. I'm also hoping to read "The Resurrection of the Son of God." I've had it now for a couple of years, but I just haven't read it yet. I also haven't read "Surprised by Hope" yet, either.<BR/><BR/>I know what you mean about unchristian thinking in the evangelical church. We are rife with it, I think. I think it has a lot to do with our departing from the concept of theological tradition. In our proud stance against following the Pope, we now have a "pope" in every pew, who believes that he/she can interpret Scripture rightly all by themselves without the help of those God has gifted throughout history.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure there's more to it than that. But if we did a lot more listening to the early fathers, we probably wouldn't be so Gnostic in our view of the body, at least.John Buergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10608956291117583865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6269373338960125445.post-61998306034900293702008-03-31T12:31:00.000-05:002008-03-31T12:31:00.000-05:00Great letter! I love Wright and need to read The ...Great letter! I love Wright and need to read The Resurrection of the Son of God!<BR/><BR/>Have you read Surprised by Hope yet? I just picked it up Friday and am looking forward to getting into it.<BR/><BR/>It really is amazing how much unbiblical thinking is widely popular within the modern church...matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17628537694937719013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6269373338960125445.post-31704576921686794802008-02-28T10:33:00.000-06:002008-02-28T10:33:00.000-06:00Good thoughts John. Wright seems to be right on in...Good thoughts John. Wright seems to be right on in what he believes. At first when I read the interview I was a little scared of what he might say, but he just stuck to the truth, and nailed it!! <BR/>I could see how people would mistreat their bodies on earth because they will be made new and renewed in the coming days. I personally don't like my body very much for the pure fact that it's impure, and as long as that aspect of my body is gone in the resurrection, I'm good. <BR/>What kind of stands does he take on other necessary issues?Eric Tippinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708124270109332670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6269373338960125445.post-85819841514738558122008-02-17T23:42:00.000-06:002008-02-17T23:42:00.000-06:00thanks, john, for your insight into this topic and...thanks, john, for your insight into this topic and wright's interview. this is a subject about which i have talked with friends recently and it has really got me thinking. however, it can be difficult to come to any sort of "conclusion" about it because some of it is still very unknown (by design) and the <I>known</I> aspects are usually, as you said, quite contrary to <I>popular</I> Christian belief.<BR/><BR/>in all honesty, the concept of God loving bodies and loving the earth is one of the most foreign views to the majority of Christians. also, the point you brought up this weekend (not talked about in wright's interview) is the fact that death is an abnormal, bad thing, brought on by the curse after the fall. i for one, have often thought of death as just the ability to go see the Lord. though paul does talk about being able to be present with Christ in some way, i don't think it's the same state which i have usually thought. i'm intrigued to continue looking into this topic and see what God wants us to know about it through His Word.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com